For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
January 28, 2005
Interview of the President by AL Arabiya Television
THE PRESIDENT: Before you ask your question, Lukman, let me -- if
you don't mind, I'd like to say one thing to the Iraqi people. This is
a historic opportunity for the people of Iraq to vote for a
government. And I want to express my appreciation for the courageous
Iraqis who are willing to step forth and promote democracy, and urge
all the citizens in Iraq to vote and to show the terrorists they cannot
stop the march of freedom.
I'm proud of the country. I'm proud of the citizens, and look
forward to the day when Iraq is democratic and free, with Iraqi
traditions and Iraqi customs. And it will be a grand day on Sunday.
Q Thank you, Mr. President. And that's before we thank you
again for giving us this opportunity here on Al Arabiya. We'd like to
congratulate you for entering your second term. But with regard to
this Iraqi election, do you expect a big or a good voter turnout?
THE PRESIDENT: You know, it is amazing, first of all, they're
having a vote at all. A couple of years ago, people would have been
puzzled by someone saying that the Iraqis will be given a chance to
vote. And now they are. I know this: I know thousands and thousands
of Iraqis want to vote. I know they cherish the idea of being able to
vote, and I hope as many Iraqis vote as possible.
Q Let me ask you how you feel about this incident today, about
the helicopter incident. How do you feel about it, and will that
affect your engagement in Iraq?
THE PRESIDENT: I appreciate you bringing that up. First of all,
any time a soldier loses life is a sad day -- sad for the family, sad
for the friends, sad for his or her fellow troops. And we offer our
prayers and condolences, and ask for God's grace and comfort on those
Today a tragic helicopter accident is a reminder of the risks
inherent in military operations. We mourn the loss of life. But I am
convinced we're doing the right thing by helping Iraq become a free
country, because a free Iraq will have long-term effects in the world,
and it will help the people of Iraq realize their dreams and
aspirations and hopes.
Q Some details, sir, about this election. As you know, that the
Iraqis will go to vote, Shias whom expected to participate in large
numbers, and Sunni whom expected to participate in smaller numbers.
What is the role you see Sunnis as playing in Iraq after the election?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, first of all, I hope all Sunnis vote. I
think it's very important. Secondly, I've been heartened by some of
the comments of Shia leadership that has said the new government must
be inclusive; that, in order for Iraq to achieve its ultimate
objective, which is a stable, free society, that everybody ought to be
able to participate in the writing of the constitution, that there
needs to be respect for minority rights. And, to me, those are very
healthy, important comments that are being made by Shia leaders. And
it is an understanding that a free society is one which honors the
voices of all.
Q Mr. President, there are report coming out of Iraq suggesting
that the Iranian are getting millions of dollars into Iraq, sending
people to influence the election. First, how do you plan to deal with
Iranian to this regard?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, one way is to speak clearly and make it very
clear that the Iranians should not be trying to unduly influence the
elections. I'm confident that the Iraqi citizens will want Iraq to be
free from any influence -- in other words, they want to be able to vote
and elect people that will represent their views, not the views of a
Q If I may follow up. Will it concern you that some sort of
pro-Iranian government will emerge?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I don't think so. I think that the Iraqis
who are willing to serve are people who understand that the future of
Iraq depends upon Iraqi nationalism and the Iraq character -- the
character of Iraq and Iraqi people emerging. You know, there's been
longtime problems between Iran and Iraq, and I'm confident that Iraqi
nationalism and Iraqi pride and the history of Iraq and traditions of
Iraq will be the main focus of the new government, and reflect the new
Q Another issue regarding that or concerning that country and
its tradition is monitored in statements regarding Iran. Mr. Vice
President warned Israel not to have any action against Iran. In Israel,
nevertheless, they think that a strike on Iran will help to delay the
nuclear effort, like the strike on Iraq by Israel on 1981. How do you
force this situation?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think we can solve this problem
diplomatically. And I appreciate the efforts of France, Germany and
Great Britain to interface with the Iranians, all attempting to
convince them that they must give up their nuclear weapons programs.
And we'll work closely with IAEA, as well as the United Nations, to
effect that end. And I feel comfortable that we can achieve a
understanding with the Iranians on the diplomatic front.
Q We've got to go back to the Iraqi election again. I want to
talk about the Iraqi election. Also, we see the future of the
coalition forces there, the future of the U.S. forces over there. How
do you see the future of the coalition forces after the election in
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think it's very important for the Iraqi
citizens to know what I've been telling the American citizens, and that
is, is that we will stay as long as is necessary to help the Iraqis
secure their country. And we'll come home as soon as possible. But
that mission must be completed. And the mission is to train Iraqi
soldiers, to give Iraqis the tools and the command structure necessary
to be able to fight off the few who want to stop the aspirations of the
I've heard talk about that we are occupiers. No, the United States
and our troops and our coalition are there to help the Iraqi citizens.
And so our mission is to do our job as quickly as we can, and then come
Now, it is up to the Iraqi citizens to eventually fight off the
terrorists, and we want to give them the tools necessary to do so. And
I think we're making good progress. I mean, obviously, there's more
work to be done, but many Iraqi units have proven themselves worthy in
fighting off these terrorists. And it's important for the Iraqi
citizens to know that their own citizens are out defending their
Q And this is -- you put it as an exit strategy -- with regard
to the training that you just mentioned here right now, what exact
number you think for Iraqi force already being trained in Iraq?
THE PRESIDENT: Oh, how many have been trained so far?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think we've trained 120,000, but that
doesn't necessarily mean they're ready. There's a difference between
quantity and quality. And so our focus over the next year will be to
make sure that the quality of the troops is necessary. And there's
been great progress on the ground. Some of the fighting units in Iraq
have been very strong and very capable. We want to make sure there's a
command structure -- in other words, from top to bottom, there's a
chain of command that will enable forces to move at the will of the
Iraqi government. In other words, when the Iraqi government makes a
decision to go defend the Iraqi people, that there's decisive and quick
And we're making progress. There's more work to be done. That's
the point. There's more work to be done on the border guards; there's
more work to be done with infrastructure guards; there's more work to
be done with the regular army, as well as the national guard, and the
police. But we're there to help, as are other countries.
Q After securing Iraq and having the Iraqi security forces able
to secure their country, there is talk about the thought that here in
Washington, they might be a permanent U.S. military base on Iraq. How
do you --
THE PRESIDENT: Well, that's going to be up to the Iraqi
government. A government elected by the people will be making the
decisions as to how best to secure their country, what kind of help
they need to make sure their democracy is able to flourish. And I
think the free world will be willing to provide that help. But these
are sovereign decisions made by an elected government.
You know, it hasn't been all that long that we transferred
sovereignty to the -- to the current government. It was last June of
2004 that sovereignty was transferred and that Iraqi citizens could see
Iraqis making the decisions necessary to move forward. And now the
elections will start a process, so that by the end of this year there
will be an elected assembly that will be honoring a constitution
approved by the people. And it's -- I think it's a glorious moment.
And I, again, want to reiterate what I said. I hope the Iraqis --
the Iraqis I've heard from have this great desire for freedom. And I
hope they're willing to exercise their right and defy the terrorists.
The terrorists have no vision for Iraq. They have no vision for a
positive and hopeful country -- unlike the people who will be elected,
who will be listening to the voices of the Iraqis as they develop a
society which will help educate people and provide health care. The
businesses will flourish in Iraq. Iraq has got -- Iraqis have got a
great entrepreneurial spirit. They're good business people. And, of
course, we want to help.
Q Another country that is so essential to the security in Iraq,
that country is Syria, The interim Iraq government accusing Syria of
aiding the former regime element and providing a safe haven to the
thousands of former Baathists. The Syrian government is saying they
are only a few hundred, and they cannot control their border. How do
you plan to deal with Syria to this regard?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, we've sent messages to the Syrians, very
clear messages, that they should not be meddling, on the one hand, and
they should do everything they can to prevent money, arms, people from
going from Syria into Iraq whose intent it is to destabilize and
terrorize the citizens, and harm our soldiers. And we expect the
government to act on our request.
But it's just not our request. It's also the request of the Iraqi
government. Prime Minister Allawi, as you mentioned, has sent a very
clear signal to the Syrians that they expect there to be cooperation
and a hundred percent effort to prevent people who would destabilize
the Iraqi government from getting into Iraq.
Q Mr. President, another issue is so essential to the area, that
is the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The latest joint survey conducted
by Palestinian and Israeli shows that majority of Palestinians and
Israelis support the idea of the permanent two-state solution that you
laid out in your peace plan, the road map. But the problem is about
how to move forward, how to get there. Today, here, again, I need to
have a news from you about how we going to have something really new to
accelerate the process.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think you've seen something new that will
help accelerate the process, and that is Abu Mazen, who has been
elected by the Palestinians, who's showed strong leadership. He has
declared that they will do everything they can to protect innocent life
from terrorists, as well as consolidating security forces. And,
therefore, we're on the road map. In other words, there's a commitment
by this man toward -- heading toward peace. And there's obligations
for both sides as we go down the path toward the establishment of a
Palestinian state. And our job is to hold people to their word -- is
to say wait a minute, this has happened; how the Israelis must make it
easier for people to move, for example; or make sure tax revenues move
to the Palestinian government so that they're able to more fully
At the same time, we very strongly support the conference in
London, which will help the Palestinians develop a strategy to develop
the institutions necessary for a state to emerge. I'm sending
Condoleezza Rice, who was confirmed today as the Secretary of State, to
show our commitment to the Palestinian cause, a cause based upon peace,
a cause based upon democracy.
Again, I'm very optimistic about the establishment of a Palestinian
state. I'm optimistic because the leadership is showing strength. I'm
optimistic because there is a very strong entrepreneurial class of
people that can -- if given a chance, will be able to develop small
businesses in the industrial sector that will help the Palestinians
I'm very optimistic because I believe that most Israelis do
understand that in the long-term their survival depends upon a
democratic state coexisting peacefully with Israel. And I'm very
optimistic because I believe the world now sees an opportunity to come
together to help the process forward. And so I'm -- I can't make you a
prediction, but I can tell you that I believe that a Palestinian state
is very possible. And we look forward to working with the parties who
have declared themselves willing to fight off the terrorists and
develop a peaceful society.
Q By mentioning Abu Mazen, that -- my time is up, this is going
to be the last question. You mentioned you're going to send Dr. Rice.
And are we expecting to see you inviting Abu Mazen here to the White
House? And just to have a clear assurance, whether you think there is
enough agreement and work for you to get the Palestinian state made by
THE PRESIDENT: Well, that's a very good question. Hopefully --
I'm a person who tries to avoid timetables because sometimes it creates
expectations that may not be met. I would hope that we could establish
a Palestinian state as quickly as possible. And the United States of
America, as well as friends and allies, will be willing to help along
those lines. It is conceivable it could happen before then if there is
that firm commitment. And it looks like there is a firm commitment.
Secondly, I had the honor of welcoming Abu Mazen here to the White
House before. I'd love to see him again -- at his convenience. He's
got a lot of work to do, and it's up to him to decide when he wants to
travel. And if he wants to come to the United States, if he chooses to
do so, of course he's invited. I saw him in Aqaba, Jordan, so I've had
a chance to meet with this man twice. And it's -- he's a fellow who
has, initially, in his new position, made some very difficult
decisions, but the right decisions. And I think the Palestinians, if
they continue to follow a path toward peaceful relations and the
development of a free state, where people can express their opinions
and have dissent and an open press, there's a very good chance the
state will happen. And I'm looking forward to that.
Q Mr. President, thank you so much.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, sir. Lukman, good job.
Q Hope to see you next time.
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