For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
January 29, 2004
Remarks by the President in a Conversation on the Economy
Manchester, New Hampshire
2:37 P.M. EST
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Dale. Appreciate it. (Applause.)
Thank you all. Be seated, please. It's nice to be back. I understand
there's been some activity in the state of New Hampshire recently.
(Laughter.) I appreciate your hospitality. It's great to be back at
Fidelity. It's good to see Mr. Johnson, Ned Johnson, who is the
founder of this fantastic company. (Applause.) And Abby, the
President -- Abby Johnson. (Applause.) There is nothing wrong with a
child following in the father's footsteps. (Laughter and applause.)
It is really good to be back here again. I really appreciate you
coming. We're going to have an interesting discussion today about the
economy. And before we get to there, I do want to say something about
some of the elected officials that have joined us, starting with your
two United States senators. My buddy, Judd Gregg, does a fabulous job
for the people of New Hampshire, and I'm really proud he's here. Thank
you, Judd. (Applause.) And so is Sununu. John Sununu is doing a fine
job, as well. (Applause.)
I am proud that Jeb Bradley, the Congressman from this district,
traveled with me today. I appreciate Jeb's leadership and his
friendship in the Congress. Thank you, Jeb. (Applause.) And, of
course, there's Charlie Bass, who is the other Congressman from this
great state -- good friend, fine Congressman. I appreciate you coming,
I know we got state officials here. The Attorney General is here;
the leader of the Senate is here; the Speaker of the House is here. I
appreciate Bernie Streeter, the Mayor of Nashua, being here. It's good
to see you again, Bernie. I want to thank a lot of my buddies who are
on the Executive Council for the great state of New Hampshire. It's
good to see Ruthie Griffin and Ray and Dave Wheeler. I appreciate you
all coming. I'm honored that you're here. (Applause.)
Most of all, I want to thank you all for giving us a chance to talk
about the economy. Before we do so, though, I do want to point out a
citizen named Dan Hebert who is with us. Dan is a USA Freedom Corps
volunteer. Two years ago I started what's called the USA Freedom
Corps. It was started to give people a chance to serve their
communities. There's a lot of volunteering going on in this state, and
you just witnessed an accolade for one.
But so we in Washington started this website for people to be able
to tap into kind of modern technology to find out what was available in
your area, if you wanted to follow your heart and serve your
community. And Dan is one such person. He is a -- he's using his
25 years in business to help youngsters understand the basics of the
economy. In other words, he's mentoring a child.
We talk about the great strengths of our country -- oftentimes,
people think about the military might of America. And by the way, it
is a great strength and we're going to keep it that way. (Applause.)
They talk about the wealth of the country. But the truth of the matter
is the strength of our country is the heart and soul of our citizens,
people who are willing to volunteer time to serve in a cause greater
than themselves, which is to help somebody who hurts, or to lend a
talent to help somebody achieve the American Dream.
And I appreciate all of you who are volunteering. I love it when I
hear a company like fidelity is at 3,500 man-hours of volunteer time.
It speaks to the -- it speaks to the charitable nature of the
executives of this company and it speaks to the great hearts of the
Dan, I want to thank you for coming, as well. I appreciate you
coming out to the airport. I appreciate you setting an example. And
if the people of New Hampshire are interested in serving your state,
love your neighbor just like you'd like to be loved yourself; volunteer
of your time to help somebody who hurts, and New Hampshire will be a
better place when you do so. (Applause.)
We're here to talk about this economy. I want to remind you what
our economy has been through. See, I'm really optimistic about the
future. I think after you hear this discussion, I think you'll be
optimistic. At least if you pay attention to what you hear.
(Laughter.) But I'm optimistic because I know what we've been
through. And I want you to think about what we've been through.
First, we had a recession in America. The stock market started to
decline in March of 2000. It was kind of a leading indicator of what
was to come. And then the country went into a recession. The first
three quarters of '01 were negative growth. When you have negative
growth, it means people are not working. And times were tough. The
people of New Hampshire know what I'm talking about. When that
recession came, it was awfully hard for some people to be able to do
their duty as a mom and a dad to put food on the table, because their
work wasn't steady. And they're worried about employment, if they were
working at all.
And then things started to get pretty good, we started coming out
of it. And then the enemy hit us. And make no mistake about it, that
affected America. It affected our economy in a big way. It also
affected our psychology. There was a day when we thought oceans could
protect us from an enemy, that we were okay if there was a threat
overseas because oceans served as protection for America. September
the 11th changed that forever, it changed that point of view. And the
war affected us.
As an aside, I do want to thank the people of New Hampshire for
understanding the stakes, that the world has changed; that in order to
make America secure, we must stay on the offensive against those who
would do us harm. And to that end, you've sent brave souls from the
New Hampshire National Guard into harm's way. And I want to thank the
moms and dads and husbands and wives of those troops who are making a
great sacrifice for the country. (Applause.)
I particularly want to pay tribute to Sergeant Randy Rosenberg, of
Berlin, New Hampshire, who paid the ultimate price for our security and
freedom. Our prayers go to his loved ones, and we thank him for his
service. I want his loved ones to know, and the people of New
Hampshire know, that a free and peaceful Iraq is in this nation's
interests. A free and peaceful Iraq in the heart of the Middle East is
in our nation's long-term security interests. It will mean our
children can grow up in a more secure and peaceful world.
I also want you to know strongly that I believe that freedom is not
America's gift to the world, freedom is the Almighty's gift to each
person in this world. And where we see suffering and tyranny and
starvation and brutalization, this nation will act. We'll act for our
own security; we'll act for the freedom of others.
We've made some tough choices recently. But all these choices were
aimed for one thing: to make America more secure, the world more free,
and the world more peaceful. (Applause.)
And then when we got going after the attacks, we had some corporate
scandals in America which affected the economy. It affected the
economy because when CEOs act incredibly irresponsibly like they were,
it creates doubt. In a system that requires trust, there was doubt.
And we acted, though. We didn't sit around trying to figure out what
to do. We passed tough laws to hold corporate criminals to account.
The message is very clear now to people in corporate America: If
you've got the responsibility to shareholders and employees, we expect
you to tell the truth. We expect you to be above-board. We expect you
to be honest. And if not, there will be consequences. (Applause.)
And then, finally, we began a march to war for our security, and
it's hard to be optimistic during a period when you're marching to
war. March to war is not a positive thought. Now we're marching to
peace. Now times have changed. We're beyond that period. We'll
debate about the decision, and I look forward to those discussions with
the American people. I'm absolutely convinced it was the right thing
to do. And I look forward to explaining it clearly to the American
But now we're secure in the peace. And we move -- we've been
through a lot, if you think about it, in three years. It's a lot for
an economy to go through, and a nation to go through. But this is a
strong nation because we're entrepreneurial, we believe in our people.
It's a strong nation, really, because the American people are strong,
tough, resilient, compassionate people.
Congress acted, too, had a hand in it. (Laughter.) It said, if
we've got a slow economy, if we've got a lot of things we overcome, let
us let people keep more of their own money. We believe that when
people have more money to spend, to save, or invest, the economy will
grow and people are more likely to find work. The tax relief we passed
was essential to get the economy going. It's essential to let people
have money. (Applause.)
It's working. It's working. The economy is growing, people are
finding work. There's an excitement in our economy. And the tax
relief we passed made sense then, it makes sense now, and Congress
needs to make this tax relief permanent. We need to make sure that
people -- (applause).
Yesterday I gave a talk about how to continue economic vitality.
One of them is to help controlling costs of health care. There's way
to do that without nationalizing health care. I'm absolutely convinced
if the federal government tries to run the health care system, it will
foul it up -- people will get lousy care, the doctor-patient
relationship will be destroyed, and the cost of medicine will go up. I
believe in -- I believe in allowing small businesses to pool risk
across association health plans in order to control costs. I believe
in expanding health savings accounts for Americans, which will create
cost savings in the system. I believe we need medical liability reform
all across America to get rid of the junk lawsuits that raise the cost
of medicine. (Applause.)
Our housing market is strong. We intend to keep it that way.
There's a home ownership gap in America, by the way, that we need to
address. There's a minority home ownership gap. I want to thank the
Congress for working with us to pass what we call a down payment plan
to help the poor -- the poor make a down payment on a home. We're
simplifying the fine print, the rules in Washington.
Listen, if you're a first-time home buyer and you take a look at
one of these mortgage application forms, you pass out over the amount
of small words in the thing. (Laughter.) It makes you nervous. So
we're simplifying it. We're helping people understand what it means to
buy a home. We're making good progress when it comes to closing the
minority home ownership gap. Home ownership is high in America today,
and that's good for the country. The more people own something, the
more they have a stake in the future of this country.
You can tell I'm upbeat, and I've got reason to be. (Applause.)
And I've got reason to be. Not only the numbers say things are looking
pretty good, the American people are telling me they feel pretty good.
The American people feel confident about the future.
I'm here with Louise Hickey. She's a Fidelity employee, been here
five years. She is -- she saved $1,100 on tax relief last year. Now,
that may not sound like a lot to some of the people who are rolling in
cash -- (laughter) -- that's a lot. It made a difference.
* * * * *
MS. HICKEY: My future is with Fidelity, I hope. I hope to retire
THE PRESIDENT: It is now. (Laughter and applause.)
MS. HICKEY: Well, the only thing that would keep me from that
would be an offer from the White House. (Laughter and applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: I don't know, I'm not so sure. (Laughter.)
* * * * *
THE PRESIDENT: Louise talked about the marriage penalty relief.
It doesn't make any sense to tax marriage. I mean, you're trying to
encourage marriage in America, not discourage it. And the tax code
ought to do so.
By the way, part of the tax relief we passed, of course, was to
raise the child credit from $600 to $1,000 a child. It means if you've
got young kids, it helps. We're about to talk to somebody, Steve
Marshall, who has got young kids. It helps a lot.
I want to remind you about another aspect of the tax relief. We're
reduced taxes on everybody, as opposed to trying to pick or choose
winners in the political debate. Everybody got tax relief. It had a
significant impact not only on individual's lives -- that is, rate
reduction did -- but it also affected small businesses.
A lot of small businesses are what they call sole proprietorships,
or sub-chapter S corps. They pay tax at the individual tax rate
level. And by reducing all taxes, we benefited the small business
sector of America. And that's very important, for this reason: 70
percent of new jobs in America are created by small businesses. And if
you're interested in job creation, it seems to make sense to stimulate
growth in the small business sector, which is precisely what we did.
We're going to hear from some small business owners in a minute.
But I just wanted to remind you about some of those aspects of the tax
code -- by the way, all of which are set to expire. In order to get
the bill out of the Congress, they said, fine, we'll give you tax
relief, but we're going to take it away pretty soon. So when you hear
me talk about making it permanent, the reason I have to say that is
that the law isn't permanent. And you're about to hear the story of a
fellow who's got three young kids -- Steve Marshall works at Fidelity,
been here since '96.
Steve, I appreciate you coming. Tell us about your family. Tell
us about the tax savings, about $2,200. By the way -- and that's per
year. It's not just "a" year, this is permanent, so long as it's in
existence. And one of the things we're going to keep talking to
Congress about -- I don't have any problem with these Congressmen and
Senators, but -- (laughter) -- is to make it permanent. (Applause.)
* * * * *
THE PRESIDENT: One of the things that he mentioned, he said, he
spent the money to renew his -- to remodel his house. Well, somebody
had to come and remodel the house. Somebody had to buy the equipment.
The way this economy works, is when you put money in circulation, you
increase demand for goods and services. And that's important when
times are slow.
So Steve goes out and demands an additional good and a service. He
demanded the service of somebody remodeling his house. The good was
the toilet, or whatever he put in the bathroom. (Laughter.)
MR. MARSHALL: Toilet and shower. It's beautiful.
THE PRESIDENT: Shower, yes, the shower. (Laughter.) I'd suggest
a toilet, as well. (Laughter.) But any rate, it puts money in
circulation. That's how the economy works. So when you hear people
say, tax relief didn't affect the economy, think about Steve, and the
fact that he had additional money that not only could he set aside for
savings, but he had additional money to go spend. And it's that
spending on the margin that got things moving throughout the economy,
because there's millions of decisions being made daily with people who
have got extra money.
The other thing you've got to know is that if the tax relief isn't
made permanent, just next year alone he will have a $1,000 tax
increase. In other words, the child credit goes away in 2005. That
means the benefits of the tax relief start getting sucked out of the
economy at the exact wrong time. We need to keep this money in the
hands of the people of America.
Listen, government has got plenty of money, and it needs to stay
focused and principled. We need to be wise with the taxpayer's money.
But it turns out, when you're trying to keep your economy going, the
best way to do so is not through government spending, but it's through
the spending of thousands of individuals across our economic spectrum.
And this is exactly why I've asked Steve to come today, so he can
help explain how you increase demand, and what it means for a family's
security. He's got three young kids, he's now got a little extra money
in his pocket to save or to spend, and all of a sudden, life looks
better, he's more optimistic. And that's important for this nation,
for people to feel that way.
So thanks for coming. Your baby is beautiful, by the way. I see
her back there.
Amy Meaney is with us. Amy is an employee of Fidelity, as well.
(Applause.) She's ready to go.
* * * * *
MS. MEANEY: And I do have a question for you on behalf of New
England. We need to know, are you rooting for the Pats this weekend?
(Laughter and applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: Did you notice who was in the box with Mrs. Bush at
the State of the Union? (Applause.) Tom Brady.
Let me change the subject here. (Laughter.) See, if you're a
young family -- (laughter) -- no kidding, think about this.
(Laughter.) Think about a young family worried about their future,
worried about jobs, worried about the economy, worried about what we've
been through, and all of a sudden, there's $2,000 additional a year to
spend. It makes a huge difference. It makes a huge difference.
Sometimes in Washington we forget the effects of policy on people,
the positive effects. And this $2,000 means a lot to the Meaney
family. By the way, if Congress doesn't act to make the child credit
permanent, they lose $715. It's like a tax increase. When you're
coming out of economic slow times, you don't want to tax people. It
will slow this economy down. We're making progress. The third quarter
growth of last year was the highest in nearly 20 years. Things are
And Congress has got to know that when they say, oh, we must let
the tax cuts expire, it affects the Meaneys. It affects them to the
tune of $715 per year. And with two little kids, that matters.
I appreciate you coming. Quite putting me on the spot. (Laughter
So we've got employees of Fidelity here, citizens who are trying to
get ahead. And I appreciate you sharing the stories. We've also got
some entrepreneurs, some business owners, some dreamers, some people
who are willing to take risk in order to produce good product or good
services, and at the same time, employ people.
Michael Barrett is with us. He's the CEO of AeroSat Corporation.
Michael, how long you been in business? Give us a little feel for what
you're doing. Let her go. (Laughter.)
MR. BARRETT: Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you for having us
here. AeroSat Corporation was inspired by your father in 1991. At
that time --
THE PRESIDENT: I'll tell him. (Laughter.)
MR. BARRETT: Thank you.
* * * * *
THE PRESIDENT: The role of government is not to create wealth, it
is to create an environment in which people like Michael feel free and
comfortable about taking risk. Listen, we can't make Michael have good
ideas, we can't make him develop a good business plan, we can't make
people be good business people; but we can say, if you're willing to
invest, here's some more money, here's some incentive to do so.
He invests $1.4 million; that means he's buying equipment from
somebody. Somebody has to manufacture it. Somebody is now working to
manufacture that product. There is more vibrancy in the economy. Just
like when an individual makes a decision to purchase something, when a
business does, the same things happens -- the effect throughout the
economy is so positive and so strong. He said, you know, well, we
hired 11 people last year. That doesn't sound like a lot to some of
these mega-corporations. It's a lot to a small business. And it's a
lot to America, when you think about the number of Michaels there are
all over the country hiring an additional 11 people on an annual
Most new jobs in America are created by people like Michael, small
business owners; 70 percent of the new jobs. And, therefore, any good
policy says, we must recognize the work of the small businesses,
provide incentive for small businesses, and when we do so, make those
So I appreciate you, Michael, for coming. (Applause.)
Are you ready, Gerardine? We've got Gerardine Ferlins is with us.
Gerardine is the President of Cirtronics. Gerardine is running a big
company, and we're honored you're here. Thanks for coming. We look
forward to hearing your story.
* * * * *
THE PRESIDENT: I appreciate it. I knew our generation would
amount to something. (Laughter.) Listen, one of the things that
really is so wonderful about our country is the entrepreneurial
spirit. You've just -- you've heard it. You've heard people talk
about the joy of creating job opportunities for fellow citizens, and
the joy of beating all odds and succeeding -- and then the
recognition of the responsibility that comes with success. And I
appreciate that a lot. It's really a good example for people to see.
By the way, if there's any young women here in New Hampshire
wondering whether or not they can go into the business world, just take
a look at Gerardine. Realize what is absolutely possible if you've got
a good idea and the heart to work hard, and the ability to dream big --
MS. FERLINS: We're 65 percent women. That's the good and bad news
for the men in the organization. (Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: All right, big Joe. Joe Landers is with us. He's
the President and CEO of Customized Structures, Inc. He's in the
housing industry -- not a bad place to be these days, I suspect. Tell
us about your company. Tell us about whatever you want to tell us.
You've got the floor.
* * * * *
MR. LANDERS: If I might add, just as a side note, I don't know if
you're aware of it, but your father's compound in Kennebunkport
actually has a modular home on it that was put there for the Secret
Service when he was President.
THE PRESIDENT: Oh, yes, that's good. (Laughter.) Well, I'll tell
him to buy a new one here. (Laughter.) From you. (Laughter.)
Listen, I started off by telling everybody I felt optimistic about
the future of this country. And they've made my case. I hope -- if
you listen to the stories of what's happening in America, you get this
sense of optimism and the can-do spirit and the willingness of people
to invest and save, because they're confident about this country.
And I am, too. And I'll tell you, I'm going to repeat one reason
why -- I love the people of this country. I love the spirit of
America. I love the entrepreneurial spirit, the spirit of love, the
deep compassion, the love of family. The values of this country are
strong, which makes America strong, which makes me grateful to be the
President of the greatest country on the face of the Earth.
Thank you all for coming, and God bless. (Applause.)
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