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Welcome to "Ask the White House" -- an online interactive forum where you can submit questions to Administration officials and friends of the White House. Visit the "Ask the White House" archives to read other discussions with White House officials.
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April 5, 2005
Chuck Blahous
Hello and welcome to "Ask the White House." I am here to respond to your questions about the President's proposal to allow younger workers the voluntary opportunity to have personal accounts within the Social Security system. Past sessions of "Ask the White House" on this subject have produced especially interesting questions, and I expect that today's will do the same. I hope that you will find my answers to be helpful. James, from Richmond writes: Thank you, James Chuck Blahous
The President wants Americans who participate in the Social Security system to enjoy a similar opportunity to build a nest egg for retirement. These personal accounts would be purely voluntary. The accounts would not be limited to government employees, but would be available to everyone born in 1950 or later who pays into the Social Security system.
Matthew, from Chicago writes: Thanks Chuck Blahous Employees in these plans do not pay taxes into our national Social Security system, but rather to different, locally designed retirement plans. In some of these plans, workers are given the opportunity to invest their contributions in personal accounts, an opportunity the President wants to extend to workers covered under Social Security.
The specific details vary from plan to plan, but there is an important lesson that can be learned from them. Personal accounts are not an untried, untested concept. Already in many places around the country, we see that they are administratively feasible and fiscally responsible.
Ralph, from Dayton, Ohio
writes: Chuck Blahous Even those younger workers who take the voluntary opportunity to have a personal account would not participate in a privatized system. The accounts would be administered in a system similar to the personal accounts now enjoyed by federal employees.
The Presidents Commission, as you note, produced three reform models for strengthening Social Security. The President has not designated one of these as his own. He has instead expressed a desire to work with Congress to find the best way to fix Social Security, and has commended many of the ideas put forth in the Commission proposals, and in the proposals of Members of Congress.
Vincent, from Springfield, Ohio
writes: Chuck Blahous
Under the Presidents proposal, individuals would have the opportunity to invest in a blend of conservative bonds and stocks. If the individual decides to invest solely in the lowest-risk fund of government bonds, similar to those now held by the Social Security Trust Fund, he or she will receive total benefits similar to those (s)he would have received if (s)he stayed in the traditional Social Security system. If the individual chooses to invest in stock funds, the higher, long-term returns from stock investments would increase his/her expected benefits. Stock returns are not guaranteed, as you may know, but there is no period in American history where they have failed to produce returns, over a full working lifetime--well above the return on government bonds. The Social Security actuarys projections, therefore, are that the net effect of the personal accounts will be to increase the benefits that workers expect from Social Security.
Ira, from Kirkland, WA
writes: Chuck Blahous Under the Presidents proposal, workers would have the choice to invest some of their payroll taxes, and thus receive some of their future benefits, from the personal account instead of from the traditional Social Security system. This choice would reduce the future obligations of the Social Security system at the same time the money is contributed to the account. This is why the Presidents approach is a fiscally responsible one.
The Roth IRA is indeed an important tool for retirement saving for many Americans. There are millions of Americans, however, who do not have additional money to put aside in savings, once their 12.4% Social Security payroll tax has been collected. For these Americans, the opportunity to build a nest egg in a Social Security personal account may be the only such opportunity that they have.
Brian, from Dyer, IN
writes: Chuck Blahous The main difference between your situation, and that of todays seniors, is that todays seniors have already paid a lifetime of taxes into the Social Security program and have been counting on the benefits they have been promised. If there were a change to their benefits, they would not have the same opportunity to adjust, and to find another source of income.
You still have most of your working career ahead of you. You havent yet paid most of the taxes that you will pay into Social Security, and you also havent accrued most of the benefits that you will accrue. If we didnt change how Social Security now works, there would be an unsustainable gap between the benefits that you would be promised, and the money available to pay those benefits. Thats why we need to develop a new opportunity for you, to establish a sustainable relationship between the systems revenues and its benefit promises, and to give you the opportunity to build a nest egg for retirement that maximizes the benefits that you can receive.
Chris, from St. Louis Missouri
writes: Chuck Blahous This is the way that Social Security has worked for decades. It can work well in a time like 1950, when there were sixteen workers to support each person on Social Security. But by the time you are in retirement, there will be only two workers to support each person on Social Security. It takes a lot more effort for two people to lift another person up than it does for sixteen people to do it. That is why Social Security must change.
Under the Presidents plan for Social Security, you would have the opportunity to put aside some of your payroll taxes in a personal account, instead of those taxes all being spent by the federal government. That way, when you retire, you will have a nest egg of your own, and can receive benefits based on your own savings, instead of only on the taxes paid by future workers.
Kara, from Repblic Mo
writes: Chuck Blahous The Social Security system exists to protect people from income loss due to such life events as retirement, a period of disability, or by being a household survivor of a wage-earner who passes away. The system was designed to be very different from welfare or other forms of means-tested assistance: Americans of all wage levels, rich or poor, pay into the system, and receive benefits from it. Equally importantly, Social Security has its own separate financing system. The payroll taxes collected for Social Security are required to be adequate to fund the systems benefits, without the system drawing funds from the general budget. The systems creators, including President Franklin D. Roosevelt, designed the Social Security program to stand on its own. Unfortunately, the designers of Social Security did not anticipate how different America would be in the 21st century. In 1950, there were sixteen workers paying into the system to support each person receiving benefits. Today that ratio is slightly more than three to one, and by the time todays young workers retire, there will be only two workers to support each person on Social Security. In order to enable Social Security to provide the type of protection that it has in the past, we will need to adapt the program to 21st century realities. This is vitally important if the program is to continue to provide important income in retirement, in periods of disability, and in widowhood. Jennifer, from Jackson, MS
writes: Chuck Blahous The President believes that surplus Social Security money should not be spent, which is one reason why he has proposed creating a system of personal accounts. These personal accounts would save Social Security money, protecting it in the accounts of individual workers, where the government could not take it away. Unfortunately, the failure to save Social Security money is not the only problem facing Social Security. If every penny of surplus Social Security money had been saved, going all the way back to 1983, and were earning interest all this time, the program would still become insolvent in 2041. Because there is no saving in the current system, our problems will begin in 2017, when annual tax collections are less than the cost of paying benefits. But even if the money had been saved, the system would still be heading toward insolvency. This insolvency is a result of a system that is trying to pay ever higher benefits to an increasing number of elderly.
Halting the spending of surplus Social Security money is an important first step, but it is not the only step. The government cannot unspend what it has spent in the past, and even if it could, the system would still be on a course toward insolvency.
charles, from sutherlin, oregon
writes: Chuck Blahous Individual workers would be able to select from a conservative blend of bond and stock funds. These funds would be broadly diversified. There would be no stock picking or day trading, simply the gains of prudent long-term investing. Administrative costs would be kept low so that account balances are not eaten up by hidden fees. The federal employees system of accounts has extremely low administrative costs, and has resulted in substantial nest eggs being accumulated by federal workers.
The President has also proposed that a life cycle fund be offered to participants, which would reduce the share of their investment in stocks as they age, protecting them from sudden market swings on the eve of retirement.
Vaasu, from California writes: Chuck Blahous
There are unfortunate realities that must be faced, however. The current system faces an enormous shortfall between the benefits that it is promising to younger workers, and the benefits it will actually be able to pay. By offering younger workers the voluntary option of a personal account, we will enable these workers the opportunity to have higher benefits than the government will be able to pay them.
Brenda, from Texas writes: Chuck Blahous
The personal accounts the President has proposed would fund retirement benefits under Social Security, and would not affect benefits for the disabled in any way. Survivors, on the other hand, would be among the leading gainers from personal accounts because of the power of inheritance. Analysis of reform plans with personal accounts consistently shows that surviving spouses and children would experience the largest benefit increases, because of the inheritability of personal accounts, something that the current system does not now provide.
Jess, from Dallas, NC
writes: Chuck Blahous Under current law, the program would experience permanent and growing cash deficits starting in 2017, just 12 years from now. If we were to raise the payroll tax by two points, from 12.4% to 14.4%, we would still face permanent deficits before 2025. Were we to raise it by 3.5 points, from 12.4% to 15.9%, we would still face permanent deficits by 2030.
Raising the payroll tax rate simply will not solve Social Securitys problems. This is why the President has called for a permanent fix for Social Security that does not rely on payroll tax rate increases.
orlando, from San Antonio, Texas
writes: Chuck Blahous
The Presidents proposed timeline for personal account implementation is based on the work of the Treasury Department and the Social Security Administration exploring how personal accounts could be feasibly phased in and administered. We are open to working with Congress to find the best timetable for setting up the accounts.
Tricia, from WI writes: Chuck Blahous Unfortunately, therefore, it is not such a simple matter of issuing more bonds to the Trust Fund. The Trust Fund represents an obligation to pay, but it does not create the means.
Tricia, its also important to note that the President has not proposed spending money, but rather requiring that some Social Security money be saved in personal accounts instead of spent as under current practice. In fact, various proposals that include personal accounts have been evaluated by the Social Security Administration and would substantially reduce the long-term costs of Social Security relative to current law.
Eric, from Wilmington, DE
writes: Now the Social Security benefit is adjusted to reflect a change in the cost of living. My question is: How is an annuity a better deal if it can do nothing but diminish in real buying power over time? Chuck Blahous John, from Arizona writes: Chuck Blahous You can think of it this way: if you set aside money for your retirement this year, that doesnt make your overall retirement needs go away, but it is still the prudent thing to do. Personal accounts may not make the systems obligations go away, but they are a prudent means of meeting them.
Personal accounts are also a very important component of the solution simply because it is virtually impossible to otherwise fix the system in a way that is fair to younger workers. Absent the personal accounts, the only measures available to fix Social Securitys finances would involve tax increases or reductions in promised benefits, each of which would worsen the treatment of younger workers. The personal accounts enable a solution to be fair to younger workers by improving their benefit expectations.
Chris, from Long Beach, CA
writes: Chuck Blahous To get a sense of the size of the problem, consider that by the end of the actuaries valuation period, the payroll tax rate would need to rise from todays 12.4% to more than 18% in order to pay full benefits under the current system, and even if that were done, the system would still not be on a sustainable course. Costs would still continue to rise afterwards.
Accordingly, if we want Social Security to be fixed permanently for our children and grandchildren, we need to modernize the program in a more lasting way.
Mike, from Syracuse, NY writes: Mike Chuck Blahous Also, there has been an enormous amount of specificity about how Social Securitys finances can be strengthened. In 2001, the Presidents bipartisan Commission issued a report containing several fully detailed options. Since then, Members of Congress have stepped forward with detailed proposals to fix Social Securitys finances. Several of these proposals are detailed at http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/solvency/index.html. The President, in his State of the Union address, listed a number of the specific provisions that have been put forward to eliminate Social Securitys projected shortfalls, and indicated his willingness to consider them all.
Where there has been a lack of specifics is only from opponents of personal accounts, most likely because the choices available to Congress will be much less attractive in their absence. Proponents of personal accounts, by contrast, have been extremely forthcoming with good and constructive ideas.
Ronald, from California writes: Chuck Blahous
If the current $90,000 cap on the Social Security tax were raised, Social Securitys permanent shortfalls would be delayed but not eliminated. Estimates in 2004 by the Social Security Administration found that even if the cap were entirely eliminated, and every penny of wages in America were subject to taxation, the systems permanent shortfalls could only be postponed by six years (from 2018 to 2024.)
Neiman, from Pearland Tx
writes: Chuck Blahous
The opportunity to leave behind an inheritance is one of the most important reasons to establish personal accounts. That way, if you were to pass on before reaching the age of eligibility, you could leave behind an inheritance to your family, regardless of their own eligibility for traditional Social Security benefits.
Ted, from U.S. government, Brussels, Belgium
writes: Chuck Blahous The current Social Security program faces a large projected shortfall. In other words, it faces a large gap between the revenues it has available, and the benefits it has promised. As a consequence, many young workers will receive significantly less than they are currently being promised in the future from the traditional Social Security system. The personal accounts help by giving workers a chance to get some of that money back. By enabling workers to save a portion of the payroll taxes that they now contribute, they can build a nest egg over time, enabling them to seek higher benefits in the future than the current system will be able to pay them.
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