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For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
July 7, 2004

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President's Remarks
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President Bush Meets with North Carolina Judicial Nominees
Remarks by the President After Meeting with North Carolina Judicial Nominees
Raleigh Durham International Airport
Raleigh, North Carolina

11:27 A.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. It's good to be in the great state of North Carolina. I just met with three judicial nominees from this state -- Judge Terry Boyle, Bob Conrad, Jim Dever.

President George W. Bush makes a statement to the press during a stop in Raleigh, North Carolina on Wednesday July 7, 2004. The President was in North Carolina to meet with pending North Carolina judicial nominees.  White House photo by Paul Morse7/7/04
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These are men with broad experience, good character. They've been rated by the ABA as qualified to serve on the bench. They represent mainstream values. They will strictly and faithfully interpret the law. They won't use the bench from which to legislate.

Their nominations are being held up, and it's not right and it's not fair. The people of North Carolina deserve better. These judges deserve better treatment in the United States Senate. A minority of senators apparently don't want judges who strictly interpret and apply the law. Evidently, they want activist judges who will rewrite the law from the bench. I disagree. Legislation should come from the legislative branch, not from the judiciary.

Judge Boyle -- Judge Terry Boyle of North Carolina has waited for a vote since May of 2001. And there's no reason why this good man should have been kept waiting for so long. He's an exceptional candidate for the appeals court. He was appointed to the district court in 1984 by President Ronald Reagan, and has spent the last seven years as Chief Judge of the Eastern District of North Carolina. He'd make a superb addition to the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, and he is vitally needed on that court.

The seat I nominated him to fill has been designated a judicial emergency by the Judicial Conference of the United States -- because when they name something a judicial emergency, it means there's a shortage of judges. I put this good man up and he can't get an up or down vote on the floor of the Senate. He is -- he, along with Bob Conrad, have waited too long.

Bob Conrad I named for one of the district courts here in North Carolina. He served as a federal prosecutor for 15 years, including three years as a U.S. attorney in Charlotte. He did a really good job in that capacity. He's waited for more than 14 months for a vote.

Jim Dever is the magistrate judge. He has had strong bipartisan support. He's waited for more than two years for a vote. The post to which I have nominated Judge Dever has also been declared a judicial emergency. This is a disservice to the state. I repeat, there's a minority of senators blocking the process. They're playing politics with something as important as the judiciary. You might remember, I had named six nominees to appellate benches. They had enough votes to be confirmed, and they -- their nominations were filibustered on the floor of the United States Senate. These are not the three I've discussed. These are other judges.

President George W. Bush arrives in Raleigh, North Carolina with Congressman Richard Burr on Wednesday July 7, 2004. The President was in North Carolina to meet with pending North Carolina judicial nominees.   White House photo by Paul Morse Now, we recently got 25 nominees through, and I appreciate that. But there's an issue in North Carolina that needs to be solved, and the only people who can solve it are the United States senators, who are holding these -- holding these nominations up.

I laid out earlier in the year some proposals that would make the process go better. Judges would provide one year advance notice of retirement or departure. Presidents would select a nominee within 180 days of receiving notice of an upcoming vacancy. And then the Senate would hold both a hearing and an up or down vote within 180 days. That's fair. That ought to apply to both Republican, as well Democrats. This is the kind of reform that is necessary to make the system work better.

The -- when we see vacancies where people are declaring judicial emergencies, it seems like to me the Senate ought to pay attention to them and give these good nominees an up or down vote, and a confirmation hearing, in some cases. The Senate ought to let them go, let them go in front of the Judiciary Committee and get them to the floor. It's not right and it's not fair.

I told these three men that I'm standing with them. And I've said, I am sorry that you're having to wait so long. I'm sorry that you're being hung out by a handful of United States senators. I appreciate their service. I'm honored that they would be willing to serve our country by going on the bench. It's time for them to get -- to at least get an up or down vote.

Let me answer some questions for you. Deb? Yes, I stiffed you the other day. I'm glad to call you this time.

Q Mr. President, Kerry, during the primaries, often said that John Edwards was not ready to be President. Do you believe that he is ready to be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office?

THE PRESIDENT: That will be up to the voters to decide. But I tell you what I think about North Carolina. I did well here in 2000 because the North Carolinian voter understood we shared values. I'm going to do well again in 2004. They know we share those values. People in North Carolina remember I came to this state and said we'll make sure our troops are well-paid and well-housed and taken care of, and we've done that. I told them we'd cut their taxes, and we've done that. The economy is strong here in North Carolina. I also know that when they go to the polls to vote for President that they'll understand that the Senator from Massachusetts doesn't share their values.


Q Mr. President --

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, speak up. I'm getting a little --

Q If I could try another Edwards question. He's being described today as charming, engaging, a nimble campaigner, a populist, and even sexy. How does he stack up against Dick Cheney?

THE PRESIDENT: Dick Cheney can be President.


Q Mr. President, does this John Edwards selection force you to spend more time in the South, and change your strategy in the southern states now?

THE PRESIDENT: I'm going to carry the South because the people understand that they share -- we share values that they understand. They know me well. And I am -- I believe that I did well in the South last time, I'll do well in the South this time, because the Senator from Massachusetts doesn't share their values, and that's the difference in the campaign.


Q Will you have to spend more time, strategy-wise?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, talk to -- talk to the schedulers. I'm not the scheduler, I'm just a simple candidate. (Laughter.)


Q Mr. President, candidate --

THE PRESIDENT: Welcome. Well, "Mr. President," thank you.

Q The judiciary you hope to create with these nominees, could you --

THE PRESIDENT: Those aren't the nominees.

Q Well, they're --

THE PRESIDENT: That's Senator Burr -- to be.

Q Could you -- could you offer thoughts as to how that judiciary is different from the one that might exist under a Democratic Kerry-Edwards administration, and perhaps with particular reference to issues of civil damage suits and abortion?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, look, I've -- first of all, on issues like abortion, I don't have a litmus test. In other words, when the nominees come before people in my administration, we don't say, what is your specific position on that issue or another issue. What we say to the person is, what is your judicial temperament? Will you be willing to faithfully interpret the law? Or will you view your position on the bench to rewrite law? And that is the difference of judicial philosophies. I've been consistent in naming people to the bench that will faithfully interpret the law. I suspect that's one of the reasons why a minority of senators are blocking my nominees and creating a judicial emergency.

And after I leave here, I'm going to Michigan to bring up the same point. There are six judges that are being withheld because of their judicial temperament -- not because of a specific issue, but because of their temperament. And I don't believe in litmus tests. I do believe -- I do believe in making sure that we share a philosophy. As I said before, I want the legislators legislating. I don't want the judges legislating.

Look, you look awfully hot, and I think it's time for us to go to the next event. Thank you.

Q -- difference from a Kerry-Edwards administration -- could you see how they might --

THE PRESIDENT: Of course. They're the ones blocking the nominees in the first place. They're the types of senators who are blocking the advance of these nominees.

Take for example here in North Carolina. Senator Edwards will not allow two of the nominees to whom I referred to even get to the -- get to the committee for a hearing.

Thank you.

END 11:40 A.M. EDT

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